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Post by labrador on Dec 6, 2010 20:31:16 GMT 8
Tamiya paint is quite permanent.
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Post by mikevictor on Dec 6, 2010 20:38:44 GMT 8
How much are the steel pots?
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Post by medic on Dec 6, 2010 21:51:34 GMT 8
Spent half an hour walking in the area. Couldn't find it. Porvenir St, you say? I guess the December crowd crush didn't help.
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Post by kalbs on Dec 6, 2010 22:26:49 GMT 8
Hi Kalbs, Great tutorial! A few questions, though: 1.) I like the idea of using Tamiya paint. Won't they run though when used in the field under the rain? 2.) I'm planning to paint camo on the helmet, just like the pathfinders did. Would you know what shade they used? Tamiya paint is fine but they really don't make the proper shade in a spray can. I suggest you mix your own and use an airbrush.  Technically, Olive drab for the was produced by mixing Chromium Yellow with Lamp Black. Any shade within that range works and shades did vary. Note that AB pathfinders were issued Olive drab helmets, not Camo. If camo was applied it would have been applied locally and for Normandy to be a vesicant paint (reacts to chemicals, turn orange) which is a yellow tan color after application. Gray was usually reserved for Navy identification but all said anything is possible when it come to WW2. From Field Manual FM 5-20A (1944): "Besides ordinary non-glossy paint, liquid vesicant chemical agent detector, M5, can be applied to the helmet in a mottled pattern to give two kinds of protection at once." |
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Post by malegant on Dec 6, 2010 22:48:17 GMT 8
Technically, Olive drab for the was produced by mixing Chromium Yellow with Lamp Black. Any shade within that range works and shades did vary. Note that AB pathfinders were issued Olive drab helmets, not Camo. If camo was applied it would have been applied locally and for Normandy to be a vesicant paint (reacts to chemicals, turn orange) which is a yellow tan color after application. Gray was usually reserved for Navy identification but all said anything is possible when it come to WW2. From Field Manual FM 5-20A (1944): "Besides ordinary non-glossy paint, liquid vesicant chemical agent detector, M5, can be applied to the helmet in a mottled pattern to give two kinds of protection at once."Very academic answer! Thanks! I shall look for a shade around the vicinity of yellow-tan then. Do you recommend I use spray (with masks) for application or brush? |
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Post by kalbs on Dec 6, 2010 22:57:18 GMT 8
Hehehe... I read way too much history stuff I guess No, I suggest you mix your own Matte Olive and use an airbrush or if you can find it the correct WW2 color in a can. Brushing in matte also would be okay since the color is matte and the surface is textured. Tamiya doesn't have the correct color anymore. The XF62 has been released in bad batches. For the yellow como, Tamiya Dark Panzer yellow would work. The pattern can be taped news paper or use Blue-tack as a mask.  |
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Post by montgomery on Dec 7, 2010 6:44:27 GMT 8
Spent half an hour walking in the area. Couldn't find it. Porvenir St, you say? I guess the December crowd crush didn't help. It's a really small alley. Their shop is built on the outer wall of a cinema. It's below the huge tarpaulin of some chef advertising a ham. You can see the tarpaulin when you're coming from Isetann goin to Quiapo Church. |
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Post by montgomery on Dec 7, 2010 6:59:28 GMT 8
Sir Kalbs,
I will be repainting my M1 soon, went to my old hobby shop (Lil's Futaba), they have Tamiya TS-28 Olive Drab 2 (darker shade) and Tamiya TS-5 Olive Drab (lighter shade) which is better?
The Tamiya XF-62 are bottled, hehehe i thought it was in spray cans hehe my mistake *toink*
Tamiya has lots of German Gray and Olive Drabs. Some are named German Gray, NATO OD, British OD, etc... Hope this small info helps others in our community who wants to restore items.
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Post by kalbs on Dec 7, 2010 7:16:02 GMT 8
I would use the bottle shade instead of the spray which seem too greenish. Gunzo makes some closer colors I think in a can.
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Post by j21 on Dec 7, 2010 8:47:42 GMT 8
I will be repainting my M1 soon, went to my old hobby shop (Lil's Futaba), they have Tamiya TS-28 Olive Drab 2 (darker shade) and Tamiya TS-5 Olive Drab (lighter shade) which is better? Personally I used the lighter shade for mine |
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Post by malegant on Dec 8, 2010 7:08:03 GMT 8
Hehehe... I read way too much history stuff I guess No, I suggest you mix your own Matte Olive and use an airbrush or if you can find it the correct WW2 color in a can. Brushing in matte also would be okay since the color is matte and the surface is textured. Tamiya doesn't have the correct color anymore. The XF62 has been released in bad batches. For the yellow como, Tamiya Dark Panzer yellow would work. The pattern can be taped news paper or use Blue-tack as a mask. Solid copy. I shall go look for Tamiya Dark Panzer Yellow since my ATF M1C is on it's way. Thanks Kalbs! |
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Post by 508pir on Jan 13, 2011 4:00:21 GMT 8
Dear Kalbs,
I'm looking for the dimensions of the NCO bar on the back of the helmets. Can you please provide me with them? I also restore modern steel helmets to WWII versions (I can upload a few pictures if you like).
greetings from a 508 PIR reenactor from Holland
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Post by kalbs on Jan 16, 2011 20:06:41 GMT 8
Post pics 508
1"x 4" is about right.
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