Post by labrador on Jul 3, 2012 9:58:10 GMT 8
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJFd_gvpMUo&feature=player_embedded&bpctr=1341282200&skipcontrinter=1
A video of SS standartenfuhrer Haroun al Raschid-Bey inspecting asiatic SS. they probably didn't do much fighting though. AFAIK the ost turkischer verband's only achievement in its short existence was to manage to retreat west and surrender to the brits.
OK guys, time to learn them russian dances.
oh and some notes from the british:
The following comes from an unnamed SS-Stubaf captured by the (British) Second Army and reported in (British) 12 Corps Intelligence Summary and undated by probably late April 1945 or early May 1945:
"An SS Sturmbannführer who had been an officer with Osttuerkischer Waffen Verband der SS (Eastern Turkish Fmn of the SS), captured on 18 Apr 45 in Friedrichsbrunn left his unit in Feb 45. He was captured while in a hospital. He was, incidentally, a former German ski champion. He stated that the Osttuerkischer Waffenverband der SS is one of the most fabulous and, if one can believe the PW, expensive outfits of this war. The Waffenverband was created in Oct 44 in the area of Pessburg/Slovakia. It consisted exclusively of captured Russians of the Mohammedan faith speaking Turkish and Arabic. The Unit Comd was SS Standartenführer Harun al Raschid Bey (this name is noted on page 30 of PW's paybook). Harun was formerly plan (sic - plain) Herr Hinterhauer from Fuerstenberg F 0412 until he becme Mohammedan and changed his name accordingly. The Osttuerkischer Waffenverband of the SS (all good non-Aryans) consisted of 3 Waffengruppen. Each Waffengruppe had two Bns with 4 rifle and 1 Hy Coy each. It was intended to use the honorary Aryans for combat against the partisans in the Balkans. But one Waffengruppe deserted on Christmas Eve [1944] to the partisans and for this reason the balance was despatched to Italy, where, according to PW, politically unreliable troops are sent. Osttuerkischer Waffenverband under Harun al Raschid is still in Italy.
"The Osttuerken, according to PW, disliked the work or to do soldiering. They slaughtered their horses and ate them. They sold their weapons and eqpt to the partisans. They needed numerous hours to say their prayers. They were extremely vengeful in case of the slightests offence or insult and killed quite a number of German NCOs they disliked. To listen to their elaborate and homeric excuses whenever they were asked to do something was exhausting. Since everyone looked like the other, they usually managed to get paid several times. They sympathised with the civilian population they were supposed to fight and spent nearly all their time in their houses. Only in two respects did the Osttuerkischer not observe the Koran: they liked a stiff drink and ate pork if their Mullahs (Chaplains) were not around."
The paybook mentioned is not in the file. Probably now at WAst Berlin.
Anyone able to identify the Ski champion and SS-Stubaf?
A video of SS standartenfuhrer Haroun al Raschid-Bey inspecting asiatic SS. they probably didn't do much fighting though. AFAIK the ost turkischer verband's only achievement in its short existence was to manage to retreat west and surrender to the brits.
OK guys, time to learn them russian dances.
oh and some notes from the british:
The following comes from an unnamed SS-Stubaf captured by the (British) Second Army and reported in (British) 12 Corps Intelligence Summary and undated by probably late April 1945 or early May 1945:
"An SS Sturmbannführer who had been an officer with Osttuerkischer Waffen Verband der SS (Eastern Turkish Fmn of the SS), captured on 18 Apr 45 in Friedrichsbrunn left his unit in Feb 45. He was captured while in a hospital. He was, incidentally, a former German ski champion. He stated that the Osttuerkischer Waffenverband der SS is one of the most fabulous and, if one can believe the PW, expensive outfits of this war. The Waffenverband was created in Oct 44 in the area of Pessburg/Slovakia. It consisted exclusively of captured Russians of the Mohammedan faith speaking Turkish and Arabic. The Unit Comd was SS Standartenführer Harun al Raschid Bey (this name is noted on page 30 of PW's paybook). Harun was formerly plan (sic - plain) Herr Hinterhauer from Fuerstenberg F 0412 until he becme Mohammedan and changed his name accordingly. The Osttuerkischer Waffenverband of the SS (all good non-Aryans) consisted of 3 Waffengruppen. Each Waffengruppe had two Bns with 4 rifle and 1 Hy Coy each. It was intended to use the honorary Aryans for combat against the partisans in the Balkans. But one Waffengruppe deserted on Christmas Eve [1944] to the partisans and for this reason the balance was despatched to Italy, where, according to PW, politically unreliable troops are sent. Osttuerkischer Waffenverband under Harun al Raschid is still in Italy.
"The Osttuerken, according to PW, disliked the work or to do soldiering. They slaughtered their horses and ate them. They sold their weapons and eqpt to the partisans. They needed numerous hours to say their prayers. They were extremely vengeful in case of the slightests offence or insult and killed quite a number of German NCOs they disliked. To listen to their elaborate and homeric excuses whenever they were asked to do something was exhausting. Since everyone looked like the other, they usually managed to get paid several times. They sympathised with the civilian population they were supposed to fight and spent nearly all their time in their houses. Only in two respects did the Osttuerkischer not observe the Koran: they liked a stiff drink and ate pork if their Mullahs (Chaplains) were not around."
The paybook mentioned is not in the file. Probably now at WAst Berlin.
Anyone able to identify the Ski champion and SS-Stubaf?