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Post by darktide on Feb 27, 2012 15:03:42 GMT 8
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labrador
Feldgendarmerie 
kriegsberichter
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Post by labrador on Feb 27, 2012 15:39:51 GMT 8
very nice. where at?
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Post by darktide on Feb 27, 2012 15:48:29 GMT 8
At a antique/ flea market in Beijing, China (came back last night). It was together with some Japanese leather gear. Just got the cap. |
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Post by DAN SAN on Mar 4, 2012 14:12:18 GMT 8
very china era. no straps is ok means its late war.
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Post by darktide on Mar 6, 2012 4:18:14 GMT 8
very china era. no straps is ok means its late war. Really? I didn't know about the late war caps having no straps... Saw several sets of Japanese uniforms as well. The average going price for a uniform (jacket/ pants) was 250.00 yuan/ RMB which is roughly around Php 1,750.00 (still negotiable, just have to haggle). Some of the uniforms had private collar tabs/ rank (red background w/ a star). Some had a short red zig-zag thing sewn above the pocket. Didn't check all the uniforms as they had quite a lot. Several Japanese pistol holters as well. Leather gear. There were less vendors selling militaria items as compared to when I was there last 2-3 years ago... |
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Post by DAN SAN on Mar 6, 2012 12:03:29 GMT 8
the zigzag patch is for unit designation its like if its red its infantry/armour green cavalry stuffs like that they have remove the patch mid to later in the war for security purposes. pls remember majority of repro ija/ijn uniforms are made in china so they may sell some on local markets. during the liberation they burned most of the captured stuffs from the enemy but not the weaponry as we all know they were used in the korean war. the leather straps wer remove to conserve leather. you may find some ija caps that looks like a basket weaved with paper liner inside, thats another late war item. if you see any ija shoes that looks like a bowling shoes its one price item personal purchased items by officers are rare as the shoes are requested by a specific officer for their own use only not the typical one with serial numbr on the side. do you have any pic of the uniform you saw?
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Post by darktide on Mar 6, 2012 20:41:11 GMT 8
No, wasn't able to take any pics of the Japanese uniforms. I did bring my camera and that was actually my plan but I was leaving in the evening to return to the Philippines so I was in a bit of a rush so I forgot. I would have bought a Japanese uniform that I wanted, but I had already bought a lot of PLA gear before I saw the Japanese uniforms so it was a choice between the uniform or the cap. Panjiayuan is a strange place... It's a weekend only flea market with more than 400 stalls and of those only around 5 were selling militaria, all old stuff. The guy I got the cap from had a lot of PLA gear as well as some East German. As far as Japanese items were concerned, he only had the cap and some leather gear. Another stall had the Japanese uniforms which were folded into a pile with a lot of old PLA uniforms, berets and caps. Yet another stall had mostly field gear and some strange helmets I couldn't identify.
They also had fields radios, decomissioned Japanese mortar shells, Japanese holsters, the wooden stock which fits into the grip of the Chinese copy of the Mauser pistol and other things.
What I usually do when I get old (like WW2) uniforms and gear is that I take a pic and post it on militaria forums that specialize in such for the "experts" to judge. I got positive replies on the cap. I feel that the uniforms were real as well.
The cap cost 200 yuan, so that's around Php 1,400.00. PLA AK chest rigs (3 & 4 cell) cost 30 yuan, Php 210.00. I got a PLA Greatcoat (super thick & bulky, like wearing a sleeping bag) for 70 yuan, less than Php 500.00. RPD/ RPK drum mag pouches were 30 yuan.
Yes, I'm familiar with the woven cap/ hat. Really a strange looking thing :-)
I'll get the uniforms when I go back there.
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Post by DAN SAN on Mar 14, 2012 10:34:49 GMT 8
darktide, go ahead you might get luck and get a uniform from any famous officer.. the name tag like on the cap veritcal bars indicates the person who have used it and where it was manufactured. they all have the same style of markings. the americans and europeans are trying to wipe out all the ww2 asian gears for their collection so try to save some for your own collection we dont want to have repros here and the amis have the original. we must preserve the asiatic items for the asians.
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