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Post by DAN SAN on Sept 24, 2009 15:35:29 GMT 8
a simple news was reported on TV yesterday, the metro manila development authority reported while they are doing a clean up drive in manila bay with the help of the philippine navy.. they actually stumble upon a sherman tank in the waters of manila bay  , location not mentioned and was immediatlly orderd to retrieve the tank. the hulk was now under the PN 's care... well, hope they can clean it up for display and not sell it for metal scrap..  ...out. |
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Post by kalbs on Sept 24, 2009 16:27:00 GMT 8
There is no turret, engine cover or front transmittion cover on the cast M4 shell. I saw the picture, it looks like the chassis was used as a trash bin then dumped into the sea
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Post by OneZero on Sept 25, 2009 0:00:27 GMT 8
Here's the pic and some news info...  MANILA, Philippines - A vessel dredging the mouth of the Pasig River as part of the river rehabilitation program accidentally struck and recovered last Saturday a submerged World War II vintage battle tank that had sunk in Manila Bay. Lieutenant Commander Armand Balilo, Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) spokesman who accompanied newsmen to the grab dredger vessel G/D Waling-Waling that was conducting operations 10 kilometers off the Bataan Shipping Co. (Baseco) compound in Tondo, Manila, said the Waling-Waling, which is operated by sub-contractor Kwan Sing Construction Corp., discovered the sunken Sherman M4-A1 tank at around 2 a.m. last Sept. 19. The tank, covered by mud and silt, was later transferred to the Kwan Sing’s direct barge D/B Naghahari. Kwan Sing construction manager Alex Andres said that their crane, which has the capacity to haul 40-tons, pulled out the solid steel tank estimated to weigh 10 tons. The PCG sought the guidance of the National Museum on what to do with the remnants of the tank. Balilo said that this was the first time that a battle tank was fished out from Manila Bay. Balilo also disclosed that the dredging firm also recovered last July 25 a war vintage 105 Howitzer cannon that belonged to the Japanese Navy, also off the Baseco area. When asked about the possibility of a vintage bomb lying in the waters of Manila Bay, Balilo said: “There are stories that ships sank in Manila Bay during World War II. Maybe a battleship carried the tank. But we have yet to find the ship.” Balilo said that the sunken ship should be salvaged because it could become a hazard to navigation. He said the area where the vintage tank and cannon were found is about 10 to 15 meters deep. hehehe.... Balilo said: "Maybe a battleship carried the tank. "....  uhmm yeah,,, maybe... |
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Post by veevee on Sept 25, 2009 0:44:31 GMT 8
Borrowing a post from Timawa... ------------------- www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jguBnmRnF6XKzxYnvLdR70OJl9_gD9ASULR00 Members of the Philippine Coast Guard look at the wreckage of a U.S. World War II tank that was recently recovered in the muddy waters of Manila Bay, in the Philippines on Wednesday Sept. 23, 2009. Authorities said the tank, which appeared to be an M4 Sherman tank minus its turret, was accidentally discovered underwater by a dredging company near the mouth of the Pasig River. (AP Photo/Aaron Favila)  A member of the Philippine Coast Guard inspects the wreckage of a U.S. World War II tank that was recently recovered in the muddy waters of Manila Bay, in the Philippines on Wednesday Sept. 23, 2009. Authorities said the tank, which appeared to be an M4 Sherman tank minus its turret, was accidentally discovered underwater by a dredging company near the mouth of the Pasig River. (AP Photo/Aaron Favila)  Filipino reporters look at the wreckage of a U.S. World War II tank, foreground, that was recently recovered in the muddy waters of Manila Bay, in the Philippines on Wednesday Sept. 23, 2009. Authorities said the tank, which appeared to be an M4 Sherman tank minus its turret, was accidentally discovered underwater by a dredging company near the mouth of the Pasig River. (AP Photo/Aaron Favila)  A member of the Philippine Coast Guard jumps off the wreckage of a U.S. World War II tank that was recently recovered in the muddy waters of Manila Bay, in the Philippines on Wednesday Sept. 23, 2009. Authorities said the tank, which appeared to be an M4 Sherman tank minus its turret, was accidentally discovered underwater by a dredging company near the mouth of the Pasig River. (AP Photo/Aaron Favila) |
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Post by masterchief on Sept 25, 2009 4:28:16 GMT 8
Too bad there are no markings to identify the Division where it was assigned to. That would look great in History Channel’s ‘Tank Overhaul’ show.  |
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Post by DAN SAN on Sept 25, 2009 6:28:29 GMT 8
@ Too bad there are no markings to identify the Division where it was assigned to. That would look great in History Channel’s ‘Tank Overhaul’ show. dude, no problem with that... dragon models limited came up with a new 1 /35th kit the same sherman tank M4a1..markings are for leyte and manila liberation.. it would cost you couple of pesos but the model kit is a wow!  with accurate cartograph markings. |
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Post by darktide on Sept 30, 2009 15:05:36 GMT 8
Hard to tell exactly what this is without the turret. It could also be an M10 Tank destroyer, as lots of those were used in the Philippines.
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Post by kalbs on Sept 30, 2009 16:42:57 GMT 8
Hard to tell exactly what this is without the turret. It could also be an M10 Tank destroyer, as lots of those were used in the Philippines. No sir... M10 and M36's have a completely different body styles and with less armor. Thats an early cast Sherman Hull for sure but the boggies are mid-war type  |
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Post by darktide on Sept 30, 2009 17:35:08 GMT 8
Hard to tell exactly what this is without the turret. It could also be an M10 Tank destroyer, as lots of those were used in the Philippines. No sir... M10 and M36's have a completely different body styles and with less armor. Thats an early cast Sherman Hull for sure but the boggies are mid-war type Found this... The 3-inch Gun Motor Carriage T35 was the prototype of the M10. It was equipped with a 3-inch (76.2 mm) gun in a new sloped, circular, open-topped turret, developed from the Heavy Tank T1/M6 turret, and mounted on an early-production Medium Tank M4A1 hull. This prototype was further developed by sloping the hull, using an M4A2 chassis, and replacing the circular turret with a pentagonal version; this model was designated 3-inch Gun Motor Carriage T35E1. In June 1942 the T35E1 was finalized as the 3-inch Gun Motor Carriage M10 and ordered into full production. |
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Post by kalbs on Sept 30, 2009 22:23:49 GMT 8
Yup... I remember on Isla Culebra off of Puerto Rico M10's and M4's were the choice targets for Navy gun range tests. There were a few at Ft. Riley we tested Dragons and the (new at the time ( Marine SMAW) rockets on. Too bad, because I bet they are worth a fortune now.
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Post by darktide on Oct 1, 2009 3:52:34 GMT 8
Captured US Sherman Tank, Beijing Military Museum  |
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Post by kalbs on Oct 1, 2009 12:55:05 GMT 8
Nice photo darktide. That's a late war M4A3 E-8 sherman (used in Korea too). The one just beyond is the M42 Duster and the last one is an M36 Jackson which was built on the same chassis as the M10
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Post by mikevictor on Oct 1, 2009 21:34:25 GMT 8
Nice pic of the Easy Eight, the last model of the Sherman by war's end.
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Post by aggie09 on Oct 31, 2009 14:31:42 GMT 8
There is an M36 Jackson (which uses the M10 Wolverine hull) turret placed on M4A3 Sherman (M36B1) because there were not enough M10 hulls available. Yeah way out there for this topic |
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, location not mentioned and was immediatlly orderd to retrieve the tank. the hulk was now under the PN 's care... well, hope they can clean it up for display and not sell it for metal scrap.. 
with accurate cartograph markings.
