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Post by bathala on Dec 2, 2009 19:13:50 GMT 8
me, waffen and dan panzer have beem dicussing this for quite a while, say bout a yaer now but i guess its time to go to the second level of our axis dreams.. hehehe. I proposed the gouping to a single division of ss. we agreed to do ss panzer grenadier regement 3 deutschland, das reich division. this group will dress uniformly at the 1944 state of the division. this group will also wear cuff titles "deutschland" gothic sript for vets of this group.. latin for new recuits.
this group will also use the cadre system as to let the feel of a real battle group command. this group will emphazize on milsim. im trying to get my hands on badges too. im talking to jim to start with the heer "grossdeutschland". anyone interested?
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Post by kalbs on Dec 2, 2009 20:01:11 GMT 8
I always think it's best for a group to select a single unit to reenact for cohiesive photos and etc. However, I'm surprised you didn't select a German unit that would be more tropical from maybe the Gothic line (Italian front) since your enviroment is tropical. The 4th SS Police Panzergrenadier Division for example was in Greece.
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Post by bathala on Dec 2, 2009 21:26:32 GMT 8
Yes, the 4th polizei word tropical but they were not considered elite.. we want to go for the tough guys like LAH, totenkopf, wiking,hitlerhugend, hauhenstaufen, etc. i guess well go for the green hbt tunic to stand the heat  . |
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Post by labrador on Dec 2, 2009 21:56:19 GMT 8
Im ok with Deutschland, though Frundsberg and Hohenstaufen have a much less controversial record than Das Reich. I've always wanted to do Waffen SS but for more sensitive audiences i plan to have an alternate Hermann Goering impression since they also used the tarnjacke for a while. The camouflage smock was what turned a young impressionable me to the W SS around 30 plus years ago before the age of political correctness.
The thing i like about W SS units in 1944 was there was no unified standard of dress. there's always a great degree of mix and match and even privately tailored mix and match outfits all the way to general rank. I also like the fact that the officers and men seem to have had a greater degree of cameraderie with each other than in other units...hence the famous photo of panzermeyer giving Fritz witt a ride on the pillion seat of his BMW.
Anyway, I agree. Which ever unit, a unified impression will allow us to copy cuffbands locally from a single foreign source. and thats good news!
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Post by mcshine2 on Dec 2, 2009 23:14:29 GMT 8
Talking about an impression more appropriate for a tropical location, why don't you axis guys do the Afrika Korps ( DAK ) and we ( or maybe me only ;D ;D ) can modify our PS uniform into a 7th Armored Division, UK ( British ) impression famously known as the "Desert Rats", then, we have a match.
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Post by DAN SAN on Dec 3, 2009 2:06:43 GMT 8
mcshine2thats a good thing.. thou in normandy in the cherbourgh area the asiatic units where stationed and some says also untill berlin???... hhhmmm.. maybe a mixture of wh and wss will do.
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Post by DAN SAN on Dec 3, 2009 2:07:28 GMT 8
and oh.. watchful eyes are looking at us...
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Post by jimmiroquai on Dec 3, 2009 6:21:50 GMT 8
At first i was all game for a unified look and still am, but only if we're using the field grey unforms. Same cut same shade of field grey would be great, even DAK would be cool, my personal favorite would be greatcoats for everyone like this....  But when it comes to camoflage, i think i prefer a mixed bag look. Besides, in latewar (1944 onwards...) photographs, most had a mix and match of gear and uniforms already. Besides, if you look at the pics during our meets, it's fun to do a unique impression or have a mix of people in the shot. IMHO, If its the strandard issue fieldgrey/DAK i'd go for a uniform look. |
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Post by kalbs on Dec 3, 2009 7:57:30 GMT 8
I guess maybe just decide on the branch of service first like SS, Heer or luftwaffe before a specified unit. The majority of SS didn't wear cuffs. I agree on your SS 1944 approach which gives lots of latitude in dress and the lots of Camo options. I have become a german SS camo expert in last few months getting ready for our photo shoot. I didn't realize it could be so complicated.
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Post by bathala on Dec 3, 2009 10:46:20 GMT 8
yes i agree and myself am going to weak a mix uniform.
it is just to affiliate oneself to a division is the idea. maybe soon when the group grows that we may add other divisions. its like when you were in highschool that you were segregated into sections right? in time you affiliated yourself with that section and in time looked back and beacme proud of your group of ragtag and crazy individiuals. individuality is very important in defining a group isnt it?
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Post by Waffen Ryan on Dec 3, 2009 20:12:34 GMT 8
Talking about an impression more appropriate for a tropical location, why don't you axis guys do the Afrika Korps ( DAK ) and we ( or maybe me only ;D ;D ) can modify our PS uniform into a 7th Armored Division, UK ( British ) impression famously known as the "Desert Rats", then, we have a match. I like the DAK idea. Jim, Dan, Donn and I have DAK uniforms already. It's made of Olive Twill cotton, not too thick for the weather here. |
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Post by Waffen Ryan on Dec 3, 2009 20:14:15 GMT 8
I always think it's best for a group to select a single unit to reenact for cohiesive photos and etc. However, I'm surprised you didn't select a German unit that would be more tropical from maybe the Gothic line (Italian front) since your enviroment is tropical. The 4th SS Police Panzergrenadier Division for example was in Greece. Sir Kalbs, do you have a picture of The 4th SS Police Panzergrenadier Division? Thanks. |
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Post by labrador on Dec 3, 2009 20:47:35 GMT 8
4th SS polizei wore police litzen instead of SS rank tabs on the collars til about 1943. Then changed to standard SS insignia. Often in pictures, they look like heer troops wearing SS smocks. They did wear the SS eagle on the left sleeve. The helmet decals were police insignia on one side and the standard mobile swastika on the other.
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Post by labrador on Dec 3, 2009 20:52:17 GMT 8
In greece, the 4th SS, and in Italy the 16th Reichsfuhrer SS wore italian cut Sahariana tropical uniforms. You can have a look at the lost battalions web site. I think there are samples there.
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Post by kalbs on Dec 3, 2009 21:00:39 GMT 8
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